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Thursday, February 21

Deliberative Session Rules: Show up or lose.

Anonymous said...

Publius: Article Submission

Deliberative Session Rules: Show up or lose.

I feel badly for people who have significant commitments and can't participate at deliberative session. I also appreciate the effort put forth by those to create a citizen petition. It is a LOT of work.

The reality is this: the moderator controls deliberative session. Period. End of story. Thats the fact Jack. Accept it, get over it and quit whining. There are no selectmen at deliberative session. Only the legislative body is there and selectmen are reduced to citizen level. Frank is running the show because WE elected him to do it. If you don't like the moderator, find a new candidate that can do a better job.

If you don't show up to deliberative session with enough people to be there for as long as it takes to defend your pet warrant article, guess what? You lose. That is the law. Get over it and get recruiting. If you want to play the game, you have to play by the rules. Endlessly whining about the rules is a waste of time and energy. Your time would be far better spent recruiting the 50 people you need to SHOW UP and make sure your warrant article does not get changed or watered down. And no individual selectman can change this.

That's the way it is. The sooner you accept reality, the better off you will be. Sorry, I didn't write the rules so don't shoot the messenger. Your option is to keep whining or start recruiting. You make the call.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

To the author....you're absolutely right, and I agree wholeheartedly.

I also agreed with this premise before there was ever a Senate Bill 2. Two complaints brought us to SB2 - one was that "not everyone was allowed to vote", and the other was that articles were changed during Town Meeting.

Same philosphy applies. If you weren't there, you don't have a right to complain. You certainly had/have the right to attend the meeting (or not) but don't complain about the results if you weren't there. Same thing goes for voting, by the way. Of our 5000 plus registered voters, maybe 2000 "bother" to take the time to cast a ballot.

In fact, that even goes for all elections. If you don't vote, and the candidate you wanted doesn't get in, you shouldn't complain, because you weren't there to help.

Anonymous said...

To the author....you're absolutely right, and I agree wholeheartedly.

I also agreed with this premise before there was ever a Senate Bill 2. Two complaints brought us to SB2 - one was that "not everyone was allowed to vote", and the other was that articles were changed during Town Meeting.

Same philosphy applies. If you weren't there, you don't have a right to complain. You certainly had/have the right to attend the meeting (or not) but don't complain about the results if you weren't there. Same thing goes for voting, by the way. Of our 5000 plus registered voters, maybe 2000 "bother" to take the time to cast a ballot.

In fact, that even goes for all elections. If you don't vote, and the candidate you wanted doesn't get in, you shouldn't complain, because you weren't there to help.

Anonymous said...

Part of the problem lies in the fact that this form of government doesn't fit into today's way of living. Most people are not working close to town where they can come and go the way they used to. When it was a bunch of local farmers who needed to stop by thown hall and vote it was easier. To get two parents to the session on a saturday is very hard to do.
Sometimes I have trouble getting home from Boston to vote in time. It's part of our changing world. Our town is suffering for the fact that we are not willing to help accommodate people who live here. We end up having to live with the same old lousy choices for officials and laws that haven't worked in the past.

I can say this, I attend the sessions.

Anonymous said...

I posted this in a later thread but I think it is more appropriate here.

After witnessing the Deliberative Session and reading all the comments regarding the petition warrants I threw together a number of suggestions that future petitioners might want to consider when presenting. This is based on years of sitting through many, many presentations.

1)Cut the presentation down to 5 minutes, 8 minutes max, and understand when to stop talking. Make your point, but don't belabor it. 2) One presentation included a PowerPoint from a laptop. Many agonizing minutes went by while they tried to figure it out. If you're going to use a laptop, learn how to use it with an external projector first. 3) Keep the petitions as simple as possible. Use the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid). Less words and less talk works. Use only as many as you need to make your point.
4) Have your presentation written down or have notes on 3x5's. Don't wing it. That is the worst thing you can do. If it written down, don't just look at the paper and recite from it. Know the presentation so that you can look up and make eye contact with the audience. Very important.
5) Said it before, know when to stop talking. Watch the crowd. If their eyes are starting to cloud over, you've talked too long.
6)If you know someone who would be a better presenter, get them.
7)This has been said many times before, but get enough supporters there to prevent the watering down process.
8)When you have the floor, you have the floor. Do not tolerate interruptions except from the moderator. Friel should have been shut down as soon as he opened his mouth, and don't expect the moderator to do it. Do not yield the floor until you're done.
9)If you hear the peanut gallery, ask the moderator to shut them down too. 10)If money is going to be required to implement, make sure to include it, and make sure everything is included, not just stamps for instance. 11)The chiefs behavior was out of line and a point should have been made to the audience of this and a apology requested. His reaction would have been fun to watch.
12)If you have handouts, have them ready before the session starts. I was a little peeved when the tower handouts were given out just before the presentation. Make sure they are clear, easy to understand, and look professionally done. Copies of copies loses points. If you can do color, all the better. Bound copies are worth extra points.
13)Try to anticipate questions you might be asked and be ready with good answers. It is good to get other people involved in this so you get other's input. Try and keep the answers clear and short as possible. Do not wander. When done ask the questioner if they got their answer.

Remember, you are trying to convince people your petition has merit. You are trying to sell an idea. Quickest way to lose a sale is to be unprepared and boring.

Anonymous said...

The last post is the first bit of constructive advice I've read. At last, somebody has a clue that whining about the rules gets you nowhere.


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